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adam9274
getting warmed up

Canada
57 Posts

Posted - 11 June 2010 :  09:49:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Everyone,

I have been talking to people about our July 1st weekend plans (APP), and a lot of non-outdoors type people keep talking about the rise in bear incidents.... I have been reading about the negative impacts of cancelling the spring bear hunt in Ontario (http://www.ofah.org/News/index.cfm?ID=3&A=GetDoc&DID=524) for quite a while now...

Has anyone personally observed this trend in your outings/trips? Have you noticed more bears about? More sign?

Have you guys been "hearing" about more... incidents? Run-ins? Sightings?

We usually have a pretty clean camp site... We put our food down wind, and up high in a tree far far away etc... all the things most prudent people do... That has been enough thus far...

What's everyone thinking?

Adam

Hillbilly
a post-count junkie



Canada
2094 Posts

Posted - 11 June 2010 :  12:04:05  Show Profile  Visit Hillbilly's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have not seen a bear con a canoe trip in 30 year except once in APP about 28 yrs. ago and it was about 2km. away and walking up a trail. I had to use binoculars to see it.

Bill

Temagami Area, a paddlers Heaven. Canoe Temagami, then you will understand.
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adam9274
getting warmed up

Canada
57 Posts

Posted - 11 June 2010 :  13:33:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah Hillbilly... I haven't been going to Algonquin as long as you, but I haven't ever observed a bear actually IN the park either... I've seen them OUTSIDE the park.... I think i'd like to keep it that way too.. :)
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Selena
crazy about OAC



Canada
289 Posts

Posted - 11 June 2010 :  14:34:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Considering who wrote that article, I'm not surprised that they took that "angle"!

I only saw a bear once in APP, it was crossing the trail and took off quite quickly once it saw us. That was about 4 years ago I think. Never another siting since. This spring I saw lots of tracks, but no bears, despite my friend's eagerness to see one and insistance that we hike fairly quietly!

I've been in APP 4 times already this year and personally would not be concerned about it at all.
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vic
a post-count junkie



Canada
1197 Posts

Posted - 11 June 2010 :  16:57:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see bears every year hiking, black and grizzly. I hike every summer in Olympic National Park in Washington State. That place is crawling with huge healthy black bears. One time on the High Divide trail there we had seven bears on the trail in front of us and we could see them all from the slope we were standing on. We had no choice, we had to go through them--it was the only way out. Is there more now than there was a few years ago--I don't really know.

Edited by - vic on 11 June 2010 17:00:48
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Dusty Boots
addicted to OAC



Canada
614 Posts

Posted - 11 June 2010 :  23:06:37  Show Profile  Visit Dusty Boots's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Let's put it this way .... I have seen more bears in one year out in BC(average 25-30 sightings per year), than a whole lifetime in Ontario. Mind you, the 1 time I was bluff charged was by a (juvenile)black in Ontario here, down a cottage road in the Muskokas.

Keep a very clean camp and you'll have no worries. Most people who are paranoid about bears have never spent a night in the bush.


now back in Ontario
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canucksar
just hanging out



87 Posts

Posted - 12 June 2010 :  06:14:01  Show Profile  Visit canucksar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We had a bear in town (Elmvale) last week it seems to have been just moving through and stopped for a visit.

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Wetdreamz
getting warmed up



Canada
61 Posts

Posted - 12 June 2010 :  09:47:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This topic is an absolute powder keg and should be treated as such.


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talltimber
a post-count junkie



Canada
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Posted - 12 June 2010 :  12:53:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by canucksar

We had a bear in town (Elmvale) last week it seems to have been just moving through and stopped for a visit.

Did it stop for a timmies and a donut the continue on its way!?

to do more canoeing than working! Someday.
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adam9274
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Canada
57 Posts

Posted - 12 June 2010 :  17:45:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wetdreamz

This topic is an absolute powder keg and should be treated as such.



Sorry, not supposed to be a powder keg... Just wondering what the word was on increased bear activity... No one here seems to be concerned... so that's good enough for me....
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Wolfmaan
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Canada
65 Posts

Posted - 12 June 2010 :  18:16:19  Show Profile  Visit Wolfmaan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was in Kilarney Provincial Park a few years back and saw a sign that said "Bears beyond this point" I was in no danger whatsoever because I stayed on the other end of the sign.

Barefoot Hiking advocate, Bruce Trail End-To-End #2412
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vic
a post-count junkie



Canada
1197 Posts

Posted - 12 June 2010 :  23:19:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I backbacked the Cape Scott/North Coast Trail two summers ago we would eat our dinner on the beach every night, and every night the bears would come out on the beach and dig for clams or whatever else they could find. Some mornings there would be bear tracks right around our tents. All our food was kept in large metal containers that were in all designated campsites.
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Wetdreamz
getting warmed up



Canada
61 Posts

Posted - 13 June 2010 :  08:29:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adam9274

quote:
Originally posted by Wetdreamz

This topic is an absolute powder keg and should be treated as such.



Sorry, not supposed to be a powder keg... Just wondering what the word was on increased bear activity... No one here seems to be concerned... so that's good enough for me....



Maybe it's just more of a powder keg for me. You're right that no one seems uptight about it. Last year this topic produced several pages of arguments and was eventually locked, if I remember correctly, over at CCR.


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dustinsouth
getting warmed up



Canada
41 Posts

Posted - 13 June 2010 :  14:36:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The reason it is a 'powder keg' is there are some who what the bear hunt re-instituted and others who do not.

I for one have see a few bears in APP, one last year along Tim river, one the year before running across the road in the pog lake campground, and one on the side of the road. Every time the bears were running away, as fast as they could.

As far as an increase goes, there is some evidence for it, despite the anecdotal evidence here (including my own). The fact is if you leave your food in the car or tied up properly you should not have a problem.

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adam9274
getting warmed up

Canada
57 Posts

Posted - 15 June 2010 :  23:04:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just as a related side note, check this out: http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2010/06/15/14403441.html
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Hillbilly
a post-count junkie



Canada
2094 Posts

Posted - 16 June 2010 :  08:21:36  Show Profile  Visit Hillbilly's Homepage  Reply with Quote
[/quote]

Maybe it's just more of a powder keg for me. You're right that no one seems uptight about it. Last year this topic produced several pages of arguments and was eventually locked, if I remember correctly, over at CCR.
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I'm not surprised it was a powder keg on CCR, that is why I do not visit CCR anymore.

Bill

Temagami Area, a paddlers Heaven. Canoe Temagami, then you will understand.
www.ottertooth.com

Help SAVE Temagami Old Growth Forests by donating to Earthroots at www.earthroots.org

www.friendsoftemagami.org www.wildernesscleanup.com
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vic
a post-count junkie



Canada
1197 Posts

Posted - 16 June 2010 :  11:19:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't visit it anymore either.
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Wetdreamz
getting warmed up



Canada
61 Posts

Posted - 16 June 2010 :  15:31:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still visit the place (myccr) but I'm not very active. Then again, I'm not very active on any forum, I'm just bored way too easily to spend much time on the computer.


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talltimber
a post-count junkie



Canada
4004 Posts

Posted - 16 June 2010 :  15:49:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
me niether

to do more canoeing than working! Someday.
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scoutergriz
addicted to OAC



Canada
693 Posts

Posted - 16 June 2010 :  16:08:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you guys aren't alone- I got deleted

of all the things I've lost, It's my mind I miss the most
Algonquin Backcountry Recreationalists

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talltimber
a post-count junkie



Canada
4004 Posts

Posted - 16 June 2010 :  16:55:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scoutergriz

you guys aren't alone- I got deleted

What did you do???

to do more canoeing than working! Someday.
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